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JetNation.com Randy Lange Chat Transcript – 9\/21\/06<\/strong><\/p>\n

[JetNation NFL Talk]: RandyLange has entered at 8:03 pm
\n[Max] 8:04 pm: Hi Randy.\u00c2\u00a0 Thanks for joining us tonight.
\n[RandyLange] 8:04 pm: Howdy, y\u00e2\u20ac\u2122all. I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m happy to be here.
\n[Max] 8:04 pm: R44 is hosting this for us.\u00c2\u00a0 He will start us off.\u00c2\u00a0 It\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s all yours R44.<\/p>\n

[R44] 8:05 pm: Randy, welcome. I guess the first question is what do we make of Chad Pennington\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s excellent start? Is he back to the Chad Jets
\nfans once loved?
\n[RandyLange] 8:07 pm: On Chad, it sure looks that way. He may still technically be rehabbing, but he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s close to 100 percent. And he had a few things to say yesterday about what he did during his rehab \u00e2\u20ac\u201d studying tape and realizing he was more arm thrower than he realized, and working out to strengthen not just the shoulder but his total body \u00e2\u20ac\u201d that I think have added some velocity to that much-maligned arm. So far, the results are excellent. He\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s even taken some licking and kept on ticking.<\/p>\n

[R44] 8:07 pm: Randy, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m sure the Jets new staff doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t buy into \u00e2\u20ac\u0153moral victories\u00e2\u20ac?, but how important to a young team was that great \u00e2\u20ac\u0153almost\u00e2\u20ac? 4th quarter comeback\u00c2\u00a0 against the Patriots?
\n[RandyLange] 8:09 pm: R44, no one wanted to admit it, but Mangini did it for them by talking about how proud he was of the comeback, even though\u00c2\u00a0 in the next breath he said how disappointed he was about the 24-0 hole that required the comeback. But to me the loss to the Pats, whether by blowing a 17-0 lead or falling behind 24-0 or trading scores, was another good, not great, sign that Mangini is having his effect on this team. Make progress every day, week, month, win games you aren\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t expected to, stay competitive
\n[RandyLange] 8:09 pm: in the ones you don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t win.
\n[R44] 8:10 pm: Thank you, Randy.<\/p>\n

[tonysxl1200c] 8:10 pm: Hi Randy thanks for stopping by! What do the Jets need to do to start run blocking better and move the ball on the ground effectively?
\n[RandyLange] 8:11 pm: Tony, that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a great question and I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t know if the answer is on this team or will be found this year. Presumably the line will be showing improvement with Nick and Brick. That\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s No. 1. Pete Kendall\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s injury has surely not helped, because neither Katnik nor A.Jones has looked like even a good stopgap answer. And I feel RT Anthony Clement has been shaky, giving up two sacks and two TFL\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s vs. NE, for example.
\n[RandyLange] 8:12 pm: But I like Kevan Barlow, I think I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m seeing good things in the short gaines he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s had, some cuts he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s made. So I think if the line settles down and Barlow becomes the starter or at least a co-equal with Blaylock, that will help a lot.<\/p>\n

[aec4] 8:12 pm: Randy:\u00c2\u00a0 What is your take on the 4-3 \/ 3-4 situation?\u00c2\u00a0 Do you buy what Cimini and Klecko or saying, or do you think they are making too much of it?\u00c2\u00a0 I mean, I think Vilma is good enough of a player to play in any format we wish, but of course we\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re hurting for a NT.\u00c2\u00a0 What are your thoughts?\u00c2\u00a0 How about for more of a pass rush as well?
\n[RandyLange] 8:14 pm: AEC4: I assume Cimini and Klecko are saying it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a mistake to put Vilma in a 3-4. I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t automatically agree (although I won\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t tell Joe to his face). But the NE game shows the problems. G Stephen Neal and C Dan Koppen got out to Vilma on all four of the Pats\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 long runs (14, 14, 14 and 10 yards) and on each he was shielded and couldn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t fly to the ball. So that supports the argument. But on the other hand, the Patriots are the NFL\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s gold standard not only at playing the 3-4 but in blocking it,
\n[RandyLange] 8:15 pm: since the OL sees it every day in training camp and practice. And I think Vilma is incredibly smart and very athletic and can make this thing work. But I think we\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d like to see a few wrinkles thrown in by Bob Sutton beginning with Buffalo: sliding the DL a little bit to get a 4-3 look (which they did twice by my count vs. NE). And Dewayne Robertson has to come up bigger than he did vs. NE. He was flat-out neutralized.<\/p>\n

[WestchesterJet] 8:14 pm: I understand Randy, and thanks for joining us. But everyone knew prior to the start of the season that D-Rob wasn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t fit to play nose tackle in the 3-4 defense. With the Jets struggling against the run, is Mangini (at least internally) regretting his decision to run the 3-4 without the proper personnel?
\n[RandyLange] 8:17 pm: WestchesterJet, Mangini doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t seem like a young man who regrets much. It\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s tough getting him to admit to anything like miscasting D-Rob, and in fact he said something Monday like Robertson is doing a good job playing the scheme the way the Jets want him to. But part of the problem is that the Jets aren\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t moving D-Rob until next season at the earliest. He\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s making too much money and would be too big a cap hit. And at least he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s receptive to playing whatever the coaches tell him to play. If he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s
\n[RandyLange] 8:18 pm: miscast, I believe the Jets intended to live with it until he came around or until they found the opening to bring him someone else who is a better fit for the 3-4.<\/p>\n

[Sperm Edwards] 8:17 pm: Hey Randy – Thanks for being here.\u00c2\u00a0 Tell us what you know about Kendall.\u00c2\u00a0 I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m sure the Mangini camp is all hush-hush, but how badly hurt did he really seem? In the meantime, who do you think is the favorite to start in his place if he can\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t go again Sunday – Katnik again or Jones?
\n[RandyLange] 8:20 pm: Sperm Edwards, great name. I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t think Kendall\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s is a month-long injury but he may need another week. He\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s on the practice field but as of today he still wasn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t lining up with the first O-line in the early drills; Katnik was still there. So I think Pete may get another week on the sideline. I am only guessing, but I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d say the best odds to start at BUF are Katnik, then A.J., then Wade Smith. And Trey Teague is getting very close to returning, so wouldn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t it be interesting if after the reporters
\n[RandyLange] 8:20 pm: were ushered from practice that Teague is getting prepped up to play some guard for the first time in his pro career? But I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t know that to be true.<\/p>\n

[madmike1] 8:20 pm: Hi Randy thanks for your time. It seemed to me that the jets made good things happen vs the pats when they brought more then one blitzer and got in brady\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s face. He certenly made many more bad throws then he has in past years vs the jets. Do you think they will blitz more this week when facing a bad passing game up in buffalo to attempt to get some TO\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s to help the offense without coles?
\n[RandyLange] 8:22 pm: Madmike, I thnk they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve got to blitz, or at least mix up the fourth man they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re sending out of the 3-4 a little more, because the four-man rush has been slow to get to the QB, as we all feared when John Abraham was traded. But the Bills are shielding Losman so well that Job One on Sunday is to contain Willis McGahee. I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t think it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s impossible, but the run defense has to respond to the issues the Pats raised last week. Hold McGahee down, you get a chance to tee off on Losman, and I think that[RandyLange] 8:23 pm: could be very productive, especially with S Kerry Rhodes starting feel very frisky indeed coming off the edge in certain situations.
\n[R44] 8:21 pm: Trey Teague is on the PUP list, so he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll be eligible to play after the Jets sixth game.
\n[aec4] 8:22 pm: Teague IS NOT on the PUP list
\n[R44] 8:22 pm: Sorry, my bad\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6.
\n[RandyLange] 8:24 pm: R44, Teague is not on the PUP list. He was activated from the preseason active PUP so he can be used at any time, as soon as the Jets determine he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s healthy enough and they decide they have a role for him.
\n[R44] 8:24 pm: Thank you Randy, I forgot he was activated\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6.
\n[RandyLange] 8:24 pm: Sorry, I didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t see aec4\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s response until I was finished shipping my answer. I have a little too much of that Mangini focus right now. Or maybe it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s just a little lack of sleep.<\/p>\n

[chadharmamoon] 8:25 pm: On the show Mike and Mike. when asked about Mike Nugent, Mangini said we are looking for best player for our team, what does that mean?\u00c2\u00a0 Please tell me there are not drafting another kicker.\u00c2\u00a0 Is there any improvements in coles injury situation?
\n[RandyLange] 8:27 pm: Chad, I believe Nugent was a brushfire that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s been put out. He\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a good kid, conscientious, professional, and he came back from Tennessee with a potentially clutch 42-yarder that he hit well. That doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t mean he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s over his yips, of course, but it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a good sign. I think many in Jet Nation remain concerned about Nugent, but I have confidence that he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll be the kicker for a few more years. As for Coles, he is listed as questionable and did not participate in some portion of 11-on-11 team drills.
\n[RandyLange] 8:27 pm: (NFL boilerplate) either WED or today. He is running, not full speed, at the start of practice. No one\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s commenting on whether he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll play or not at BUF, but if I were a wagering man, which I sometimes am, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d say Coles will go. He\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s started 85 straight, after all.<\/p>\n

[Smizzy] 8:27 pm: With the emergence of Mr.Cotchery, how long untill the Jets realize they are overpaying Justin Mccareins and look to move him? Or am I just dreaming?
\n[RandyLange] 8:29 pm: Smizzy, I know Justin\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s not a fan favorite, and based on his production the last 2 years, he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s getting paid quite well. But I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve always felt he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a receiver more like \u00e2\u20ac\u02dc04 than \u00e2\u20ac\u02dc05, when a lot of things went wrong for a lot of people. I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t know whether Mangini and Schottenheimer have made peace with the idea that McCareins is here for the rest of the year, but Eric is talking like that, and McCareins has actually looked decent, IMO, with a reduced role. He may even be the guy who\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s keeping Tim
\n[RandyLange] 8:29 pm: Dwight sidelined because Dwight had been the slot WR until he got hurt late in camp and now McCareins is doing that job well.<\/p>\n

[Max] 8:29 pm: Randy what is Mr. Coles relationship with Mangini like right now?\u00c2\u00a0 He seems to be the team spokesman and we have heard some rumblings from him about how hard camp was and how negative Mangini is.\u00c2\u00a0 Are there problems between the two that could spill over to the rest of the locker room?
\n[RandyLange] 8:31 pm: Max, I just called it the latest episode of \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Lav and the Coach\u00e2\u20ac? today. Laveranues has been more talkative than ever before this year, and a very good quote at that. He doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t care that he zings his HC every once in a while, and it seems as if he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s doing it more playfully than spitefully. Mangini even didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t seem to mind that Coles called him \u00e2\u20ac\u0153ornery\u00e2\u20ac? and \u00e2\u20ac\u0153a mean little guy\u00e2\u20ac? on Monday. But Lav took another playful shot today and I wonder if Eric may try to talk with him about this.<\/p>\n

[R44] 8:32 pm: Randy, what is the situation with Tim Dwight? As long time N.F.L. follower, I realize the Jets must really like him, because in the \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Not For Long\u00e2\u20ac? league, he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s keeps getting chances, despite his disturbing history of \u00e2\u20ac\u0153nagging injuries\u00e2\u20ac?\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6.. I guess what I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m asking, is will the Jets continue to patient if Dwight doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t get healthy soon?
\n[RandyLange] 8:34 pm: Yeah, R44, I was thinking about that Dwight history today again and I remember writing that Dwight could be a great little addition to this team if he can stay healthy. But right now, I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t know how much of Dwight\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s being deactivated is his health and how much is the current personnel situation the Jets find themselves in. He has said for two weeks now that he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s ready to return and it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s the coaches\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 and trainers\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 call. Mangini said today it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s precautionary to prevent Dwight from suffering a<\/p>\n

[RandyLange] 8:35 pm: relapse of what we think is a thigh bruise. But at some point I would like to see if Dwight can at least put some zing back in the punt returns (they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re looking a lot like last year\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s lifeless group so far) and can add his speed to the offensive mix.<\/p>\n

[R44] 8:35 pm: Thanks for the clarification on the Dwight situation\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6.Another question, Randy: Outside of the first round picks, are any of the Jets rookies fairly close to being major contributors on offense and defense \u00e2\u20ac\u201d i.e. Eric Smith?
\n[RandyLange] 8:37 pm: R44, Eric Smith got into the safety rotation vs. NE. He came in for one or two series after Erik Coleman hooked Kevin Faulk coming out of the backfield, although Coleman returned in the 4th quarter.\u00c2\u00a0 There\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s no buzz about Schlegel, who could be IA all year unless they get in a numbers bind at LB. Brad Smith is a constant factor, even if he doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t get used much, as vs. NE, because he has really taken to WR and there\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s always the promise of at least one or two throws off the option, etc.
\n[RandyLange] 8:38 pm: Leon Washington is playing, of course, but other than the KOR at Washington in the preseason, I haven\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t seen much out of\u00c2\u00a0 him. Drew Coleman is earning his keep so far as a flyer on punt returns.<\/p>\n

[tonysxl1200c] 8:37 pm: Randy, speaking of the PUP list, what\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s the latest on Curtis Martin\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s rehab? Is there a chance that he will play again, or will he be going on the IR after week 6?
\n[RandyLange] 8:39 pm: Tony, Curtis Martin is the great secret of the Tangini regime. We have not gotten an update in several weeks. The company line is that Curtis continues to rehab with an eye toward trying to be ready to play sometime between Week 7 and Week 13, probably later rather than earlier. I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t know what the real story is. I wouldn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t count Curtis coming back, but it just feels as if it may be the end of a great career.<\/p>\n

[Sperm Edwards] 8:38 pm: Randy – #1 if you wanted a good \u00e2\u20ac\u0153wager\u00e2\u20ac? you should\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve taken KC to win under 9 games this year.\u00c2\u00a0 #2 – there\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s been some discussion on our boards – any chance we\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll see some lone-back sets with 2 TE\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s ? (we\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re not throwing to the FB\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s; maybe a little more push in the running game while retaining another big receiving target).
\n[RandyLange] 8:41 pm: Sperm, we\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve seen a little 2-TE, not much. That\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s another way to try to get some push, but I haven\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t seen a whole lot out of Sean Ryan yet, and after all, he was the Cowboys\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 fourth TE, which is why Tuna was happy to trade him to Mr. T. But Ryan seems to be in the mix, and they re-signed Zach Hilton, who at least was a big-target pass-catching TE for NO last year. (You may remember Zach\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s only career TD catch came vs. the Jets.)<\/p>\n

[chadharmamoon] 8:40 pm: With the running game not being productive why doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t Mangini go for broke and run Cedric Houston and see how he can do?
\n[RandyLange] 8:43 pm: Chad, I agree about Cedric. Eric has explained it in such a way that Cedric doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t do enough on ST to squeeze ahead of someone else, such as Leon Washington, on the TB depth chart. But my good friend Dan Lieberfield (inside joke) is on the Houston bandwagon, and I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve gotten the indication from my sources that Buffalo could be Cedric\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s season debut. If that happens, my guess is that Leon gets IA and Tim Dwight also gets activated.<\/p>\n

[R44] 8:42 pm: Here is a question, sort of out-of left-field. But it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a good one\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6Given that the Jets current head coachspent time with both Parcells and Belichick, is he obsessed with the last 5 spots on the roster?
\n[R44] 8:45 pm: Randy, more specifically, are the Jets constantly shuttle in street agents, more than Herm did, to always get looks at newbies?
\n[RandyLange] 8:45 pm: R44, he may be obsessed with those final five roster spots. I would favor trying to establish a little more consistency with\u00c2\u00a0 those spots, trying to develop some players for next season or even this season. I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t feel that Terry and Herm did that enough. They treated those spots and the P-squad like a revolving door and got rid of people a year after moving them around like pawns. Sometimes the right guys in those spots turn out to be decent role players.
\n[R44] 8:47 pm: Great answer Randy, maybe the revolving door approach is counterproductive to the theory behind the P-squad\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6.to devolop
\nplayers in the long term.
\n[RandyLange] 8:47 pm: R44, I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t get the sense the Jets are doing more shuttling now than they did under Terry and Herm. I think it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s about the same, which makes sense because Mike Tannenbaum as we all have heard had a hand in the Jets\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 front office decisions under Terry. That may be Mr. T\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s style. And the exchange of Jamar Martin for Zach Hilton? Well, there must be a reason for it that is not obvious, because they cut Zach and gave Jamar a fairly significant role as Kevan Barlow\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s fullback.<\/p>\n

[MeatyMe] 8:46 pm: Hi Randy, The talk during the offseason was that Teague would play center for a couple of years and that Mangold would start out at guard and move over to center after Teague retires. You mention that there are rumors that Teague may be positioned at guard now. Is it safe to say that the Jets are satisfied with what Mangold is already bringing to the table?
\n[RandyLange] 8:49 pm: Meaty, I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t want to give the impression that I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve heard Teague is a guard now, just that Mangini has said he will work at G, C and T. But the coach recently said he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s been pleased with Mangold\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s progress. In my video study, I haven\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t seen a lot of major problems with Nick. I think he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s holding his own and he may be one of those exceptions to the rule that you don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t want to put a rookie at C because the position has so much going on and it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s better for a veteran to handle it.<\/p>\n

[Gainzo] 8:50 pm: Randy: What are your thoughts on the Patriots chances to go deep into the playoffs?\u00c2\u00a0 It seems the national media has already written them off as \u00e2\u20ac\u0153washed up\u00e2\u20ac? and that the Patriots moves will come back to haunt them (McGinest, Vinateri, Branch)?
\n[RandyLange] 8:53 pm: Gainzo, I like many have been a big fan of the Belichick\/Pioli Pats. I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t understand all of the money moves, especially Vinatieri. Now I know the Jets\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 defense is not fully formed yet, but the way Brady took them apart early, then struggled, then dissected them on that last drive, maybe that means that Brady doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t need an established WR corps. The secondary has some weaknesses but the front 7 still looks formidable. I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d say the Pats are still SB contenders, but I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t have a real good feel<\/p>\n

[RandyLange] 8:53 pm: yet how far they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll go in the playoffs, just that they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll go again.<\/p>\n

[WestchesterJet] 8:54 pm: How has the transition to Eric Mangini been for you, the sports reporter? Not that your job was ever easy, but c\u00e2\u20ac\u2122mon, it had to be a little bit easier under Hermy.\u00c2\u00a0 And is Cannizzaro still crying himself to sleep at night now that Herm\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s in KC ruining that fine city\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s team?
\n[RandyLange] 8:55 pm: Westchester, it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a different world now, but really it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s just a return to\u00c2\u00a0 a world we all were familiar with under Bill Parcells. Mangini does some things differently. Some things are more restrictive, some things less. But I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve always felt the bad reporters complain about the working conditions and the good ones nod their heads and then establish different sources to try to tell the important stories about their team.<\/p>\n

[PhinHater] 8:56 pm: Hi Randy, if we beat Buffalo, we will be 2-1.\u00c2\u00a0 Pennington has exceeded expectations.\u00c2\u00a0 If we split between\u00c2\u00a0 Indy and Jacksonville, what do you think our final record\/chances might be at 3-2 with the remainder of our schedule?\u00c2\u00a0 Also, do you think Penny will let us down and get hurt again after a good season so far, or is he for real this time?\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0
\n[RandyLange] 8:58 pm: Phin, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m hopeful for Chad. He\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a good dude and has shown amazing cajones to come back the way he has. He could get hurt again and then what can I say. I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll just mention that Phil Simms couldn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t stay on the field for the blue team from about 1979-83, then he didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t come off the field from 1984 until he got hurt in 1990. I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m hoping Chad will have the same renaissance beginning this season. As for the record, 2-3 or 3-2, I think that bodes well for a good final 10 games. This team may be more
\n[RandyLange] 8:59 pm: competitive than a lot of us thought it would be, and the final 10 games are filled with teams such as DET, GB, HOU and OAK. I feel better now than I did last month that the Jets can make a decent run at 8-8, maybe not get there but at least establish the progress they need under Mangini to set up a firm foundation for Year 2.<\/p>\n

[Smizzy] 8:58 pm: Randy, Eric Barton & Bryan Thomas have played well so far. What do you think about them playing in this 3-4 defense. Also, could you do me a solid? Tell Cimini, Smizzy said Cotchery is a houshold name where I live, how about his house? Thanks again for stopping by today. We appreciate you taking the time to chat with us again. Please come back!
\n[RandyLange] 9:01 pm: Smizzy, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m not enough of a football theoretician to say the Jets will succeed or fail in the 3-4. I think they have good people, maybe not at every position but at many. A lot of guys seem like they could do well in the 3-4, Barton and Thomas being two of them.\u00c2\u00a0 The key is Mangini\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s (and Sutton\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s) vision. He helped build and sustain NE\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s 3-4 for six seasons, and he was a lot more than just a secondary coach all six years, despite what some people think. If that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s what he wants to build here,
\n[RandyLange] 9:02 pm: then for now I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m trusting him to make the right decisions and find the right people to make it hum like he did at NE.<\/p>\n

[Max] 9:02 pm: Randy here is a question from one of our members that couldn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t be here tonight.\u00c2\u00a0 C.J. Mosley \u00e2\u20ac\u201d what\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s the deal with him?\u00c2\u00a0 What can we expect?
\n[RandyLange] 9:05 pm: Max, C.J. Mosley is a cipher right now. Privately, I think he may be concerned that he hasn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t been a 3-4 nose and now they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re trying to make him one. In any event, he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s behind Rashad Moore, who actually has had some flashes working in with D-Rob at nose. Rashad\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s plays have gone from 8 at TEN to 18 (plus five more on goal line) vs. NE. If Rashad winds up being better than Mosley, perhaps it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s no harm no foul, suspect value in the Bollinger trade but great value for a waiver pickup.<\/p>\n

[Sperm Edwards] 9:03 pm: A question from 4HCrew who couldn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t make itready to go:\u00c2\u00a0 Who are Mangini\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s \u00e2\u20ac\u0153soldiers\u00e2\u20ac? and who won\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t be back next year?
\n[RandyLange] 9:08 pm: Sperm, that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s an interesting question. Perhaps for obvious reasons, Vilma, Barton, Chatham, Rhodes, maybe Dyson, Pennington, Blaylock,\u00c2\u00a0 probably all the rookies, Cotchery \u00e2\u20ac\u201d those are the soldiers. Shaun Ellis surprised me with a strong recommendation after the TEN win. Kimo. As for who won\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t be here, I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t have a great feel on that. Is Justin Miller Mangini\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s kind of safety and personality? I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t know. Will McCareins stick? Will D-Rob be moved? Those are some of the questions I have.
\n[Sperm Edwards] 9:08 pm: that is, if you can answer that one Randy; I know you still want to interview these guys – even the stiffs.
\n[RandyLange] 9:10 pm: Yeah, that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s the only problem. I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t want to hang a hat (as Walt Michaels always used to say) on Justin Miller, for example, or Coles. They\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re both kind of edgy guys whom Mangini may like or may not like. But they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re both talented players who maybe can co-exist with the new regime. So I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d like to see everyone get thru this first season of Mangini-ball before I write anyone off.<\/p>\n

[R44] 9:09 pm: Randy, the Jets will face a Bills team with a stuggling offense. We know that\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6However, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve watched them the last 2 weeks and their defense has been stellar. They have 4 or 5 rookies doing good things on defense (Whitner, ect.) and their DE\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s (Schobel, Denney and Kelsay), who were much maligned in the upstate N.Y. media coming into the season, have been absolute terror\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s off the edge both weeks\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6can the Jets young O-line handle the Bills hot D-line and keep Chad standing in the pocket?
\n[RandyLange] 9:12 pm: R44, the Bills\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 defense is scarier than I thought it would be. They all play with great motors, which I guess was Dick Jauron\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s secret ingredient. Fletchere and Spikes are top LBs and Spikes apparently will play SUN. Schobel and Kelsay may have been getting heat but they have had some very good games vs. the Jets. It\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a dangerous matchup, and yet their secondary and their third-down defense have been suspect and that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s where Chad has been making hay the first two games. So while\u00c2\u00a0 I believe this<\/p>\n

[RandyLange] 9:13 pm: is a tough spot for the Jets, I think they can still pull a win out of The Ralph, especially if they get it done against McGahee, whom I just never have warmed up to even though he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s pounded the Jets in the last three meetings.<\/p>\n

[R44] 9:13 pm: Thanks Randy, this is sort of a \u00e2\u20ac\u0153softball\u00e2\u20ac? question: Are there any \u00e2\u20ac\u0153lesser known\u00e2\u20ac? Jets in that locker room that the media and players just love due to their personality and upbeat nature?\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6.Maybe even a practice squad player that just is so nice and likeable , that the media and players can\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t help but root for\u00c2\u00a0 to make a bigger impact?
\n[RandyLange] 9:18 pm: R44, let me think. \u00e2\u20ac\u00a6 I think Kerry Rhodes, although not unknown, has a lot of those qualities. I really think Kerry is on the way to Pro Bowl recognition some day. I know the players love and respect Eric Barton. On offense, Kendall keeps them laughing, I hear. Matt McChesney, the multiply tattooed one, is back on the P-squad and I sense he can be loosy-goosy. Those are a few names that come to mind.
\n[R44] 9:20 pm: Randy, honestly, doing a draft site I know a lot of the players on N.F.L.\u00c2\u00a0 P-Squads\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6.and McChesney was, honestly, the inspiration behind my question \u00e2\u20ac\u201d I know he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a real flake \u00e2\u20ac\u201cin a good way.<\/p>\n

[WestchesterJet] 9:13 pm: the Jets are notoriously bad in Buffalo
\n[RandyLange] 9:15 pm: Yes, they are, Westchester. Lost 8 of their last 11 there and haven\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t held a second-half lead in any of the 8 losses. If that continues SUN, the Bills fans will eat them up in their home opener.
\n[WestchesterJet] 9:17 pm: Chad Morton is the only reason the Jets have won there in the past few years<\/p>\n

[MeatyMe] 9:18 pm: Randy, Given Abrahams\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 latest injury problems and the seeming likelihood of continued injury problems, wouldn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t you say that the Jets, at least, came out even with Mangold?
\n[RandyLange] 9:21 pm: Meaty, I didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t like giving up Abraham the edge rusher. But that was another of those divorces that benefitted both sides.\u00c2\u00a0 I like getting Mangold with that pick from ATL. And I still can\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t believe some of us in the media still bring up Matt Leinart as a Jets screwup. I can only ask those guys, who would be helping Leinart pick the grass and FieldTurf rubber particles from his teeth, since he wouldn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t have Brick or Nick in front of him. Building the OL is never sexy but it is sometimes necessary
\n[RandyLange] 9:21 pm: and I applaud Tangini for being proactive in the draft on that matter.<\/p>\n

[chadharmamoon] 9:21 pm: From talking to Mangini what kind of sense do you get about his concern about his running game? Do we have any chance of landing Adrian Peterson next year.\u00c2\u00a0 Will Tangini trade up for him, even though they don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t like to trade up?\u00c2\u00a0 And which NT coming out from college do we need to keep are eyes on?
\n[RandyLange] 9:24 pm: Chad, I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t know the NTs who are coming up yet. I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m just real tunnel-visioned once the season starts, although I get my fill of college FB on road Saturdays. (Pearl Street Brewery ahead in BUF.) As for the running game, Mangini has a habit, some probably think annoying but others may think is brilliant, of not expressing any worry about things like the problem running game. He preaches focus, teamwork, toughness, etc., and tries to fix the problem without worrying publicly about it. So I can\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t
\n[RandyLange] 9:25 pm: imagine Eric is happy about the state of his tailback, but he has a positive, unshakable approach to that problem as with all the others, that he and his staff and his players will somehow figure it out and fix it.
\n[RandyLange] 9:34 pm: Chad, Peterson could be the guy. A lot still has to play out, but if Curtis is not in the picture, which I think he won\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t be, and if Kevan hasn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t shown his \u00e2\u20ac\u02dc03 form at any time this season, then the Jets probably do need to consider drafting or trading up to draft Peterson.
\n[R44] 9:38 pm: B.T.Y. Adrian Peterson is a junior, so he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll have to declare\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6but considering Peterson was hoping Maurice Clarett\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s lawsuit would pave the way for him to go from high school to the N.F.L., it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a slam dunk he comes out \u00e2\u20ac\u201d barring a injury.<\/p>\n

[Sperm Edwards] 9:26 pm: A question from Scott Dierking:\u00c2\u00a0 Mangini-Do the players now have a philosophical buy-in to the man, his staff and the way they do things, or is there more that needs to be shown?\u00c2\u00a0 Measuring the players perspective, do the writers see any perceptible changes in the players in how they are reacting to wins and losses (since we have had both), compared to the previous regime?
\n[RandyLange] 9:28 pm: Scott Dierking (I assume that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s not THE Scott Dierking, whom I covered for one season in 1980), I think many players have bought into the Mangini philosophy and more than a handful haven\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t yet. I did a story a few weeks ago about a few people who weren\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t happy with the camp they went through, the penalty laps, etc. Winning and getting better individually and as a team will convince those who are on the fence. But since Mangini will be around for a few years, I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t see this as an Al Groh repeat.
\n[RandyLange] 9:29 pm: If Mangini identifies guys who aren\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t buying in, well, he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s brought in enough of his kind of guys, so he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll get rid of the non-believers and bring in some more of his kind of guys.
\n[RandyLange] 9:30 pm: As for reacting to the wins and losses, I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d say it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s about the same. Not too high after TEN, not too low after NE. But a difference to me is how the players are looking at the big picture. Herm encouraged his players to talk about their goals, visualize, etc., so there\u00c2\u00a0 was a lot of playoff and Super Bowl talk. Mangini doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t encourage that. Today he was asked that since he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s so into showing movie clips to the players if he\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d show the celebrations of the Yankees and Mets clinching their divisions
\n[RandyLange] 9:31 pm: titles this week. He said while those moments are very inspiring, etc., they were for things that happened at the end of a long process. He\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s at the beginning of a long process, so he won\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t be showing those Mets and Yankees images to his team.<\/p>\n

[Max] 9:28 pm: Randy any buzz on the stadium (are the Jets and Giants getting along) and new practice facility?\u00c2\u00a0 Do the players seem excited about this at all or is it still too far away?
\n[RandyLange] 9:33 pm: Max, the stadium and practice facility issue are not real to the players yet, although I keep warning them that in two years, if they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122re still around, they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ll be coming to my neck of the woods. It will be status quo around here almost until the start of the 2008 training camp, because the plan is to break down the complex and relocate it after all the free agency, draft and minicamp stuff earlier in 2008. And the new stadium is coming, I think, two years after that.<\/p>\n

[KSJets] 9:34 pm: with the recent stories about Chad and him noticing his throwing mechanics were off, and takng it upon himself to really work hard at changing, and the other stories about Cotchery really busting his ass to improve his speed, those are all great individual efforts to improve themselves, but isn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t that something that the previous coaching staff should have noticed and pushed them to do?
\n[KSJets] 9:36 pm: I mean, was it really just great individual efforts to improve themselves or more of a failure of the coaching staff to notice it
\n[RandyLange] 9:36 pm: KS, yeah, there are always going to be things lilke that that the previous regime should\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve done but didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t. But the thought just occurred to me that if Hackett was at least a great QB coach, one that Chad swore by, why didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t Hackett fix the mechanics? Heimerdinger greatly disappointed me, although he was saddled with a deteriorating situation, obviously. But the thing Herm should\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve done a better job of was enforcing the strength and conditioning rules. Too many guys let things slide last
\n[RandyLange] 9:38 pm: off-season and last season, and some (not all) of those guys wound up getting hurt. Herm didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t help Markus Paul enforce (through threats of fines) the standards in the program. Herm always felt professional athletes will always do what\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s in their best interests.\u00c2\u00a0 Mawae, before he left, said that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s just not true. Many will, many won\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t.<\/p>\n

[R44] 9:36 pm: Randy, thank you for the time tonight\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6..Question: do you believe Woody is truly happy that he got rid of Herm and Bradway and replaced them with the \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Tangini duo\u00e2\u20ac?\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6Any regrets by the Jets front office, perhaps, that Herm wasn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t sent packing prior to the 2005 season?
\n[RandyLange] 9:41 pm: R44, yes, I think Woody was happy ultimately with the transition to Tangini. I believe he did a good job of hiding his growing frustration with Herm wanting to restructure after losing seasons. Now was Herm underpaid by NFL head-coaching standards? Yes. But Woody\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s the owner and I believe he was set to release Herm if KC hadn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t been involved. But no, I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t think there was a feeling to move Herm out before last season. I believe in the bottom line when it comes to playoffs. Herm got them in
\n[RandyLange] 9:41 pm: three out of four years. He could have done a lot of things better, a lot worse. But the momentum for him to leave didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t start until after the \u00e2\u20ac\u02dc04 season.<\/p>\n

[Max] 9:41 pm: Randy on behalf of JetNation.com I would like to thank you for your time.\u00c2\u00a0 We look forward to \u00e2\u20ac\u0153chatting\u00e2\u20ac? with you again in the future.\u00c2\u00a0 We really appreciate you stopping by tonight, we know how busy you are right now!\u00c2\u00a0 We look forward to your articles, thanks for giving us such an objective look at the Jets.
\n[R44] 9:43 pm: Thanks Randy\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6..Great job\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6.Much appreciated and don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t forget to plug your book\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6.it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a great read.
\n[RandyLange] 9:43 pm: Max and all, thanks for your hospitality as always. I must leave now and make the long trek home to New Jersey so I can catch up on my beauty rest, then write my Sunday stuff from home tomorrow, then fly to Buffalo and woof down some real wings. And the Lake Effect Pale Ale at Pearl Street is to die for.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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