{"id":35574,"date":"2017-03-13T15:47:21","date_gmt":"2017-03-13T19:47:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jetnation.com\/?p=35574"},"modified":"2017-03-13T15:48:02","modified_gmt":"2017-03-13T19:48:02","slug":"35574","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/miletestsite.com\/jets\/2017\/03\/13\/35574\/","title":{"rendered":"Thoughts on Brian Winters Contact"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There is a thread in our forums right now that was started by\u00a0<strong><a id=\"ips_uid_1145_3\" class=\"ipsType_break\" title=\"Go to Doggin94it's profile\" href=\"http:\/\/forums.jetnation.com\/topic\/131601-evaluating-the-winters-contract-against-other-2017-g-contracts\/\" data-ipshover=\"\" data-ipshover-target=\"http:\/\/forums.jetnation.com\/profile\/6663-doggin94it\/?do=hovercard&amp;wr=eyJhcHAiOiJmb3J1bXMiLCJtb2R1bGUiOiJmb3J1bXMtY29tbWVudCIsImlkXzEiOjEzMTYwMSwiaWRfMiI6MzMzNjk2Nn0=&amp;referrer=http%253A%252F%252Fforums.jetnation.com%252Ftopic%252F131601-evaluating-the-winters-contract-against-other-2017-g-contracts%252F\">Doggin94it<\/a>.\u00a0<\/strong>He takes a look at the contract that Brian Winters received from the Jets before free agency began, and compares it to what other guards have received on the open market. I read it and felt it was worth sharing. Hopefully signing Brian Winters when they did saved the team some money. Read it and decide for yourself.<\/p>\n<h3><u>Winters<\/u>:<\/h3>\n<p><b><strong>Overall<\/strong><\/b>: 4\/29M, 7.25M Per, 15M Guaranteed<\/p>\n<p><b><strong>Cumulative Cash Flows: <\/strong><\/b>Year 1: 8M; Year 2: 15M; Year 3: 21.5M; Year 4: 29M<\/p>\n<p><b><strong>Cap Management: <\/strong><\/b><b><strong>T<\/strong><\/b>he first 2 years of Winters&#8217; salary (8M &amp; 7M) are guaranteed, and there&#8217;s no signing bonus. He can be cut after 2018 with no dead money.<\/p>\n<h3><u>Bitonio<\/u>:<\/h3>\n<p>Bitonio was still under contract for 1.164M in 2017; his 5 year extension included new money this year, so it&#8217;s a 6 year cash flow on a 5 year extension.<\/p>\n<p><b><strong>Overall: <\/strong><\/b>5\/51M, 10.2M\/Yr extension, plus pre-existing 2017 contract, 17M guaranteed<\/p>\n<p><b><strong>Cumulative Cash Flows<\/strong><\/b>: Year 1: 12.237M Year 2: 18.237; Year 3: 25.237M; Year 4: 33.737M; Year 5: 42.737M; Year 6: 51.737M<\/p>\n<p><b><strong>Cap Management: <\/strong><\/b>Bitonio can be cut with no dead money at any point after 2017, has escalating cap hits during those years from 6M in 2018 to 9M in 2022.<\/p>\n<h3><u>Duvernay-Tardif<\/u>:<\/h3>\n<p>Like Bitonio, Duvernay-Tardif was extended with a year left on his deal; he was still under contract for 690K in 2017, and his 2017 salary was not adjusted.\u00a0 Again, cash flow is over 6 years.<\/p>\n<p><b><strong>Overall: <\/strong><\/b>5\/42m, 8.4M\/Yr extension, 4M guaranteed (10M signing bonus)<\/p>\n<p><b><strong>Cumulative Cash Flows: <\/strong><\/b>Year 1: 10.69M Year 2: 14.05M; Year 3: 20.3M; Year 4: 27.3M; Year 5: 34.55M; Year 6: 43.05M<\/p>\n<p><b><strong>Cap Management: <\/strong><\/b>With the 10M signing bonus, Duvernay-Tardiff carries hefty dead money through the first 3 years of the deal, and only saves 2.5M in cap space if cut before year 3 (the first 2 years are negative), creating a roughly 20M virtual guarantee.\u00a0 If cut before year 4, the Chiefs eat 4M in dead money and create only 5M in cap room.\u00a0 This contract really shows the value of extending a player on their rookie deal; building in the 690K salary he was due in 2017, the contract value goes from 5\/42 to 6\/42.6 \u2013 essentially saving the Chiefs about $1M per year in average cap cost for Duvernay-Tardif , without even factoring in how much more the Chiefs would have had to pay for 2018-2022 if they\u2019d let him hit FA.<\/p>\n<h3><u>Warford<\/u>:<\/h3>\n<p><b><strong>Overall: <\/strong><\/b>4\/34, 8.5M\/Year, 17M Fully guaranteed<\/p>\n<p><b><strong>Cumulative Cash Flows: <\/strong><\/b>Year 1: 10.1M Year 2: 17M; Year 3: 25.5M; Year 4: 34<\/p>\n<p><b><strong>Cap Management:<\/strong><\/b> Warford doesn\u2019t become a cap-positive cut until year three, and that year he saves only 6M in cap room while leaving 4+M in dead money.\u00a0 This is a deal the Saints really hope lasts all 4 years.<\/p>\n<p><u>Leary<\/u><\/p>\n<p><b><strong>Overall:<\/strong><\/b> 4\/36M, 9\/Year, 18.65M Fully Guaranteed<\/p>\n<p><b><strong>Cumulative Cash Flows: <\/strong><\/b>Year 1: 11M; Year 2: 19M; Year 3: 27.5M; Year 4: 36M<\/p>\n<p><b><strong>Cap Management: <\/strong><\/b>Huge dead money hits in years 1 and 2 make him a cap-negative cut until year 3, when he can be cut for 7M in cap savings and just under 2M in dead money.\u00a0 His salary takes a jump to the 9+M range for years 3 and 4, so if the \u201cstarter on the bench\u201d view of Leary ends up being wrong, he\u2019ll never see year 3.\u00a0 But they\u2019re locked in for 2 years.<\/p>\n<h3><u>Zeitler<\/u>:<\/h3>\n<p><b><strong>Overall: <\/strong><\/b>5\/60, 12M per, 23M fully guaranteed<\/p>\n<p><b><strong>Cumulative Cash Flows: <\/strong><\/b>Year 1: 18M Year 2: 28M; Year 3: 38M; Year 4: 48M; Year 5: 60M<\/p>\n<p><b><strong>Cap Management: <\/strong><\/b>Wow is this a huge win for Zeitler.\u00a0 This isn\u2019t a \u201cfunny-money at the end\u201d contract; he actually <b><strong>beats<\/strong><\/b> his per-year average for the contract as a whole (12M) over the first 3 seasons as the contract comes into balance at 12M per for years 4 &amp; 5.\u00a0 As a result, Zeitler\u2019s not a viable cut until year 4, when cutting him would save 7.6M in cap room (while leaving 4.8 in dead money).\u00a0 This is a contract meant to last all 5 years.<\/p>\n<h3><b><strong>Thoughts:<\/strong><\/b><\/h3>\n<p>Winters\u2019 contract actually seems like a bargain, looking at the money being thrown around in free agency.\u00a0 His first-year payout is about 20% less than the <b><strong>lowest<\/strong><\/b> Year 1 payout in the recent guard contracts (Duvernay-Tardif &amp; Warford). He\u2019s not in Zeitler\u2019s class, but he\u2019s an improving young player and it looks like the transition from college Tackle to pro Guard has been successfully completed.\u00a0 Last year, PFF had him ranked as their number 32 overall guard, meaning he was already grading out in the top half of starting guards in the league; for comparison, LDT was their No. 26 pass-blocking guard, but struggled in run blocking (I don\u2019t pay for their site so I\u2019m going based on reported numbers, and don\u2019t know Winters\u2019 run\/pass breakdown or LDT\u2019s overall number). And it\u2019s reasonable to project continued improvement.\u00a0 Wish we had extended him in the middle of last year, but we likely did not have the cap room and we\u2019re not really paying a premium for that failure, even comparing him to the extended guards (Bitonio and Dr. Duvernay-Tardif).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There is a thread in our forums right now that was started by\u00a0Doggin94it.\u00a0He takes a look at the contract that Brian Winters received from the Jets before free agency began, and compares it to what other guards have received on the open market. I read it and felt it was worth sharing. Hopefully signing Brian [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":31714,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":true,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1948,6,1337],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-35574","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-breaking-news","8":"category-featured-editorials","9":"category-home-slider"},"acf":[],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/miletestsite.com\/jets\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/brian-winters.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/seLffi-35574","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/miletestsite.com\/jets\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35574","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/miletestsite.com\/jets\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/miletestsite.com\/jets\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/miletestsite.com\/jets\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/miletestsite.com\/jets\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=35574"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/miletestsite.com\/jets\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35574\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":35576,"href":"https:\/\/miletestsite.com\/jets\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35574\/revisions\/35576"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/miletestsite.com\/jets\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/31714"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/miletestsite.com\/jets\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=35574"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/miletestsite.com\/jets\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=35574"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/miletestsite.com\/jets\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=35574"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}